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What happened? what went wrong for them? It seems from the behaviour, the one thing the elites want is that the planet and it's resources must be preserved for them or what's the point? Sure burn millions of acres of land to drive the populous into the pens - Who needs Koala bears when you're in control of a planet entirely dedicated to your needs? The trees will grow back, why the Koala might too but nuclear exchange? It leads me to think that the rhetoric is just that. Either the elites control everything and the war is a bigger scam distraction than we thought,. Just how intensive is the fighting, it all seems shelling of DPR and LPR, border skirmishes, clashes over villages (last one in the "counteroffensive" was pop . 450) and WW1 trench tactics.. Reported 400k deaths, are you sure? Heard any reports of WWII Kursk style tank battles but 1000's of vehicles destroyed? in battle or just on invoices? Is this really just part of the process to bankrupt the west, destroy the fiat money system and replace it with Totalitarian NWO where they will own everything with willing apparatchiks and militarised police (Armed IRS for goodness sake) Perhaps most importantly a corrupt justice system to provide an air of "legal" respectability to the control. It's very easy to say "I won't comply" but when people are staving, morals will soon be forgotten.

Perhaps nuclear capability does not exist in any real sense of the word? This needs a hugely complicated and of course expensive infrastructure to work properly and be maintained. The Russians were devastated in the 90's after the destruction of the USSR. Was there any money for deterrent when it was difficult to get bread in Moscow? The US backed oligarchs who swept in to take the "means of production back from the worker" would not be funding it. Photos of rusting nuclear subs seemed to abound. If say like after NASA which has bled untold billions from the taxpayers pockets for so long, can we really say there is a functional deterrent in place even with new "compact" delivery methods such as hypersonic missiles with nuclear payload capability? (The DOD recently said they cancelled such tests - can't get the delivery system working yet?). In a similar fashion, comments that very little weaponry reaches Eastern Ukraine and what does is old NATO and US stockpiles promised to be replaced at today costs, just part of the scam. Where did all the defence budget go? Can't make enough shells - what? Just for a moment consider that the majors powers agreed to construct the MAD scenario at some point and use it as yet another money syphon while providing the required control by fear, hatred and popular support of policy for both sides of the cold war to support the expenditure (read theft)? We will never know, but nothing would surprise me, one thing for sure either way, there will never be a nuclear exchange. Oh Dear, just realised I'm getting distracted

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I think I answered many of these questions in a previous response just now. But yes, the end goal is depopulation and the recreation of a new world built on the few and everyone else as laborers. Much like the CIA movie - The Hunger Games

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Should read Armstrongeconomics.com/blog to see hidden info, and gain knowledge of the science of predicting the future???

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Good insights and an enjoyable read. A link to Nuland's comments (video or audio) would be a great help.

As we know, the neocons and friends have been running the globe with such ease for so long that they do not understand defeat or interference with their agenda. It is remarkable that they think they can sustain a conventional war in the face of Russian resolve.

And why should Russia play tit-for-tat conventional war that would only lead to attrition. Putin said repeatedly that he saw no use for a world without Russia. Personally, I have zero doubt that they will go nuclear before even ceding Crimea.

This is all a dangerous game that is almost certain to end with nuclear war.

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